john kerry who is replacing hillary clinton, chuck hagel, you had to support the iraq war to maintain credibility in u.s. national security circles even though the exact opposite should be true, that people who did that aught to be extremely discredited. >> at the end of the day chuck hagel is a republican realist. i don't know why that's so toxic within the republican foreign policy circles because there's just -- >> it really is, that's so remarkab remarkable. i thought after bush and the second iraq war when condoleezza rice was against the neo kan voices we would see the descendant part of the republican policy and it is not. >> i do talk at ron paul a fair amount so i'll limit myself, but that's a strain ron paul captured this election cycle with republicans. they are sick of war just like the rest of america. >> the reason is that the lobby in washington is extremely powerful. we keep wondering why they still yield power, but that's ultimately the reason. they have extreme power in washington. it's the same reason gun control is so hard to get. there are powerful lobbies and the